To ensure result quality, we automatically downrank pages with advertising and tracking, which are often associated with low-quality or machine-generated content.

That is one of the most compelling things I've ever heard about a search engine.

How well does kagi work for niche "reddit queries" like "best waterproof midi synthesizers reddit"?

welcome Stephen Wolfram to Kagi’s board of advisors

This is interesting. I guess we will soon read a longwinded post about it from the first person perspective.

Kagi on the other hand feels like an ideal subscription service. It feels like what Google search wanted to become.

[1] To force me not to leave open tabs I don't really care about, my default browser is FireFox Focus, which is strictly "incognito" mode, which means I'd have to manually log in to Kagi every time I did a search.

Made me think and have to do some digging for the 'Kagi' out of Berkeley founded in the 90s where you could register your shareware purchases in the days before PayPal. Which seems to have been largely scrubbed from history outside of some WayBack snapshots.

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/08/01/kagi-shuts-down/

https://tidbits.com/2016/08/04/kagi-shuts-down-after-falling...

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=2016-04-04+to+2019-01-3... = 2 years 9 months 27 days

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=2019-01-31+to+2016-04-0... = 2 years 9 months 26 days

The duration should be identical but is off by one day.

One day a space mission will fail due to this bug.

Reported several times, they never cared.

I was a bit reluctant but I don’t regret doing it.

Really happy to see Wolfram added to it!

A search engine should show web results based on my query. That's it. Some summaries and highlights are useful, but show them in the sidebar, and make them optional.

If I need a calculator, I have plenty to choose from, including the Wolphram Alpha site.

If I need an answer to a question, LLMs do a good job at that.

Please don't make the common mistake of making your search engine "useful". My average session on your site should last seconds, which is the time it takes me to see the results, and click on the most relevant one. If you achieve that, you're doing a great job.

Sites have to make exceptions for Google, but likely wouldn’t care enough to allow other search engines in.

If they announce that my monthly payments are going up, and I suspect it's because they're paying for partnerships with services I don't view as core to the product value that brought me in, I would feel cheated. And if they add those integrations and don't charge more, I'd have to wonder about that too: are they trading something for the integrations, or are they charging me too much?

...We are even thinking of providing a consumeable API for users to add their own widgets to Kagi search results triggered on demand (and shareable with others via an open-source repository[1]).

Neat!

1: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/support-and-community/open-source...

- Kagi will rely on Wolfram's okay-ish stack to immediately add features to their engine

- Kagi will, over time, 1-by-1 remove the reliance on the (generally slow and expensive) Wolfram API with built-in features

- Once the meat of the features have been rewritten internally by Kagi in more performant and self-controlled ways, remove the dependence on the slow and expensive Wolfram API

Not saying that's a bad thing, but it's quite likely this is how it plays out. We've seen it before.

At that discount rate, a lifetime membership at $1,680 would be rational for Kagi ($600 individual). And at that price, I’d pay! Hell, do $3k flat (5% cost of capital; ~$1k individual) and throw in an annual in-person event and I’d call it a great deal. For Kagi, moreover, it would be permanent capital.

(I would also love for Kagi to launch a K-12 education product, possibly marketed at first to PTAs.)

[1] https://kagi.com/settings?p=billing_plan&plan=family&period=...

(https://kagifeedback.org/assets/files/2024-03-05/1709652268-...)

Does Kagi hang indefinitely for text searches for y'all? I experience this behavior about 1/4 searches. No error; just no page load. I am about to cancel my sub and switch back to Google.

Silly example: I just tried "average distance to moon/Eiffel Tower height" in Kagi and got "= about 1.167 million" (powered by WA).

Random aside: this blog is the first time I've seen a monospace font used for prose that doesn't look absolutely terrible; in fact, it's very readable for me. Inspecting with Firefox, I see the font is Menlo--and looking it up, it even seems like it's a web-safe font. Pretty interesting.

[1]: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/getting-started/setting-default.h...

Bing couldn't answer "MangoldtLambda[11]" either, and it also couldn't answer "differentiate x^2 with respect to x", and didn't show a graph for "norway gdp".

🞬 blog.kagi.com (blocked ghs.googlehosted.com)

16:28 - 14:50 = 22 hours and 22 minutes

although, Google never could not too.

fantastic news, really glad to hear about this

Now it says unlimited, but I'm not sure "you and a swarm of a thousand digital clones" counts as fair use...