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news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46407683

You should also include Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Meta, OpenAI, IBM, Anthropic, and any tech company that has a defence contract with the US Department of Defence / War and ICE or any government.

Yet the big problem is of course for those being “principled” about this subject are not serious themselves as some either work there and profit from it, continue to use their products including LLMs or will concede to using them due to social inertia.

The only time this is taken seriously is when all these contracts are scrapped. (They won’t be.)

biophysboy8 months ago
I think the difference is that Palantir is significantly more focused on federal contracts, particularly those related to defense/surveillance.
151212j0j8 months ago
Of course that's the goal, but stopping new contract is 1 step toward the goal my friend, got to stop whining and take baby step.
You are saying stopping new coal mine means that everyone need to stop heating now and freeze to death this winter.
moogly8 months ago
Don't let the best be the enemy of the good.
outside12348 months ago
As a worker in one of the companies above, I can tell you that we aren’t willing to do just “whatever” to win contracts. We have real responsible AI reviews etc. We would not just hand over data to the US government. It doesn’t seem that way at Palantir.
willtemperley8 months ago
Absolutely. We should not contract any of these companies and use British companies instead.
philwelch8 months ago
Why stop there? You should also boycott the investment firms behind these tech companies, like Y Combinator, and their Internet forums like Hacker News.
aprilthird20218 months ago
When one domino falls, it will cause many to fall at once
exBarrelSpoiler8 months ago
As cliche is it to cry whataboutism, this clearly is. Incrementalism is better than nothing. Sanctimony is FUD. If even one company is suffers at least it’ll serve as a warning to the others.
mrcartmeneses8 months ago
So we can’t take it seriously until the problem is already solved?
I think the worry regarding Palantir is that it is explicitly and openly fascist rather than just doing fascism on the side

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news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46407683

You should also include Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Meta, OpenAI, IBM, Anthropic, and any tech company that has a defence contract with the US Department of Defence / War and ICE or any government.

The only time this is taken seriously is when all these contracts are scrapped. (They won’t be.)

biophysboy8 months ago
I think the difference is that Palantir is significantly more focused on federal contracts, particularly those related to defense/surveillance.
151212j0j8 months ago
Of course that's the goal, but stopping new contract is 1 step toward the goal my friend, got to stop whining and take baby step.
You are saying stopping new coal mine means that everyone need to stop heating now and freeze to death this winter.
moogly8 months ago
Don't let the best be the enemy of the good.
outside12348 months ago
As a worker in one of the companies above, I can tell you that we aren’t willing to do just “whatever” to win contracts. We have real responsible AI reviews etc. We would not just hand over data to the US government. It doesn’t seem that way at Palantir.
willtemperley8 months ago
Absolutely. We should not contract any of these companies and use British companies instead.
philwelch8 months ago
Why stop there? You should also boycott the investment firms behind these tech companies, like Y Combinator, and their Internet forums like Hacker News.
aprilthird20218 months ago
When one domino falls, it will cause many to fall at once
exBarrelSpoiler8 months ago
As cliche is it to cry whataboutism, this clearly is. Incrementalism is better than nothing. Sanctimony is FUD. If even one company is suffers at least it’ll serve as a warning to the others.
mrcartmeneses8 months ago
So we can’t take it seriously until the problem is already solved?
I think the worry regarding Palantir is that it is explicitly and openly fascist rather than just doing fascism on the side

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46407683