411 points · 247 comments · 1 day ago · TomAnthony
news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48473166From the announcement here: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/anthropic-claude-fable-5-on...
> After 30 days, the data is deleted automatically, except in the rare cases where it's part of a safety investigation or we're legally required to keep it.
From: https://support.claude.com/en/articles/15425996-data-retenti...
dsign
OtherShrezzing
pczy
Note that Anthropic has committed not to train models on logged data, so I don’t understand some of the concerns here. What exactly is your threat model? That Anthropic would train models contrary to their terms of service? That you trust them enough not to log your data prior to this, but not enough to trust their stated limits on how logged data will be used now?
Edit: I am partially convinced by some of the replies. However, it is worth noting that this change primarily affects Enterprise users. Data from consumer plans is already retained for 30 days. Source: https://privacy.claude.com/en/articles/10023548-how-long-do-...
rohansood15
storus
jreynar
abofh
stuaxo
I've worked on a few apps for UKGov and I would absolutely be raising this as a massive red flag.
moezd
htrp
officialchicken
1313ed01
"For more on how Anthropic handles this data, see Anthropic’s commercial terms and data retention policy. Enabling the Claude Fable 5 policy constitutes acknowledgement of this requirement. Leaving it off keeps Claude Fable 5 unavailable to your organization."
https://github.blog/changelog/2026-06-09-claude-fable-5-is-g...
rozumbrada
thefounder
_pdp_
cherryteastain
tgmatt
xnx
throw03172019
zmmmmm
ramstar3000
My current thought is that many businesses use claude code on API based pricing opposed to subscriptions due to the zdr. However, these models are already not being subsidised?
nullbio
If you aren't voting with your wallet, you can't cry when the world ends.
throwfaraway4
gdiamos
I expect them to train on their traffic, and I train on mine.
LetsGetTechnicl
I_am_tiberius
amluto
Imagine if they interpret “safety” such that they scan for the string “com.openai” and, if found, ask an LLM to summarize your entire session and send it for human review?
slake
masonwan
_bobm
buzer
What this means it that if someone makes an Article 15 request, they would be entitled to know if Anthropic holds personal data about them and also from who they received this data at minimum.
If someone wants to do that, I would recommend combining it with Article 18 request to forbid deleting the data for legal claim in case you contest Anthropic's reply. Otherwise they could just delete the data per their retention policy and DPA would find much later that they no longer hold the data.
a34729t
BoorishBears
60 days.
adithyaharish
shevy-java
After 30 days, the data is deleted automatically
Do we believe that?
or we're legally required to keep it.
Aha - so, data is forever.
romanovcode
except in the rare cases where it's part of a safety investigation or we're legally required to keep it
So basically all your data will flow to NSA/CIA/Mossad if they show even slight interest in your org or you as a person. Gotcha.
cloudengineer94
At the end of the day we will need private LLMs and Cohere might save a traço great chance here
avereveard
razieloren
drcongo
themafia
TZubiri
Even in the happy case where nothing bad happens, you get a badly integrated product, because you integrate not against the actual vendor, but against a abstraction layer that commoditizes the actual product, effectively forcing you to either use the least common denominator of features, or circumventing the actual aggregation model itself with some kind of 'vendor_specific_parameters' parameter in the aggregator API.
My thesis is drop the vendor neutrality, and build your integration with the vendor directly.
rvz
Anthropic does not care about you.
codeduck
dhavd
chattermate
gauravvij137
Torikul007
malephex
jedisct1
wewewedxfgdf
It is literally 10X to 20-X cheaper to directly buy Anthropic subscriptions for your devs.