We end up with some good threads on HN in both directions, but there’s a weight to early voices that can bend a posts’ comments pro or anti AI which isn’t necessarily reflective of the quality of said post.

You can also exclude github repos posted here that contain ai attribution. Filters are updated daily to catch exceptions.

This is not an AI problem.

The internet is a bad place with lots of bad actors and no one says anything about malicious state actors who pollute the internet (they might be called xenophobic !)

AI merely is another tool for bad actors to be better bad actors, but that doesn't mean AI is the problem.

The worst part about it is like 80% of the conversation is motivated speech.

That's worse than the technology itself.

I would totally understand your position if it was, say, crypto that you wanted to exclude. The whole of crypto finance is an edifice of scam built on some interesting but not very useful maths, and there's nothing to redeem it. There are no interesting tech discussions to be had there.

And sure, there are plenty of AI scam artists out there (most seem to have switched from Crypto experts to AI experts in the last couple of years).

But the underlying tech that is being used in AI is not only interesting, but also useful. I'm seeing people who have never coded before produce some cool apps. OK, they're not production-grade, but that's still new people doing new and interesting stuff with this tech. My own workflow is profoundly different from what it was a year ago. I've seen old problems that were really incredibly difficult to fix collapse completely using this tech. It's a useful tool if you're developing software. I suspect there are other areas of human endeavour where it will be useful too. I very much doubt it will replace all human work, or become sentient.

I think we need to separate out the AI business, which is its usual mess of scam, exaggeration, and buffoonery, and the actual AI tech, which is producing some really useful tools.

They can all individually create and consume AI outside of this community of course.

It's not that AI is so great, but that we really are in a different era defined by creative constipation and politics.

What will unclog the jam is making something and sharing it. I don't think anyone cares if you use AI to create some of it as long as it's not slop or too derivative. Things will recover, but it will never be the same.

95% of the frontpage is completely uninteresting to me at this point. AI press releases, basic posts on AI advances, and AI-generated slop. A sad fate for a once-great forum.

We need a filter on existing tech news sites or an alternative press.

Great, now we need AI to exclude AI related news /s