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I noticed that because the things I find genuinely interesting that I post here now get zero traction, which is the stuff that I believe would previously be met with some discussion.
Note that I don't care that my submissions were ignored, I don't need that validation. Problem is that if my stuff gains no traction, I am myself not seeing similar stuff posted by others, stuff I am genuinely also interested in and would want to hear about from this community.
Here are two most recent examples:
- Lenovo showed a model that incorporates solid-state air cooling. That technology has been around for a while but it looks like it matured and is production-ready. This allows for super-light and slim designs, which, in turn, should allow for bigger batteries installed and I think it's some sort of breakthrough: https://smackernews.com/item/49580229 HN
- Brax Industries devices, genuinely interesting, open-soruce and innovative, especially the wall display, with its modularity and on-device processing compatible with Home Assistant. I also appreciate the very clean design: https://smackernews.com/item/49643215 HN
As said, I honestly believe this would gain some traction here on HN a year or two ago. I no longer find HN a good source of "what's new" in the industry, it's almost exclusively AI talk now.
So I think the point I am trying to make is that maybe YC could start curating the content somehow to give those easily-drowned-out articles a visibility bump?
Or, at the very least, introduce simple tagging, so we can start filtering stuff out.
leonheld
embedding-shape
These things tend to improve/get worse by themselves over time, if it's not AI, it'll be something else, until the industry moves on. Right now, seems we're still "discovering" new things around AI, so the submissions will surely continue, and interested parties will continue to upvote.
But AI will have its eventually Ruby/RoR moment in the future too surely, where eventually you hardly see any frontpage submissions about it ever.
lta
I understand this is a significant topic in the industry but the ratio is really high. Every time someone at OpenAI or Anthropic farts, there's top 10 post.
It makes me feel as if a lot of hackers had given up on actual hacking to just be followers of the latest commercial stuff thrown on the market. It's likely a projection of my own fears, but I have not been able to shake it off and it's gotten worse and worse.
aurareturn
The Lenovo laptop jet is experimental and the details suggests that it uses 7.5w to cool 30w. That's not very efficient. You might as well have a small fan and let it spin at a low RPM to reduce noise. There doesn't seem to be a breakthrough here.
The Brax industries one is just an ad from the company's official Youtube channel. I don't think the product is interesting at all.
PaulKeeble
throwaway273747
It's not just the AI thing - though that hasn't helped - there's been a real turn in the community. The most generous take I can offer is that a lot of people flooded into tech for the money in the last ten years, and now that the money is tighter all these people are panicking and trying to cling to anything that looks like a winning lottery ticket.
Unfortunately that means that for those of us who actually like cool tech, the space is inundated with get rich quick trash and wishcasting. So so much of it on HN right now.
I also think there's been a subtle change in the quality of the moderation. Before, stories were clearly gently spiked or promoted to encourage interesting and novel things to drift to the top every once in a while, and now that basically never seems to happen. A story about a cool new lisp would somehow appear in front of a story about a new version of React, even though it's kind of obvious it couldn't match the level of upvotes for the latter. Now it's all the latter. It's like a very smart thumb has been lifted off the scales and the community is poorer for it.
As I say, I eventually just left. HN currently detracts from my enjoyment of my day more than it adds. I hope it finds its way back over time.
noir_lord
news.ycombinator.com##:matches-path(/^\/(?:news)?$/) tr.athing:has(a:has-text(/AI|claude|A.I|harnesses|harness|OpenRouter|llm|vibecode|agi|deep learning|agent|TPU|GPT|DeepSeek|Anthropic/i)):xpath(. | following-sibling::tr[1])
I just have that in my Ublock Origin rules - it cuts the noise dramatically and if something gets through I just update the has(), it's a brute force approach.Ironically the only reason I saw this post is because I was on my ipad :).
nonethewiser
I have spot-checked it at times and saw 5 to 8 of the top 10 posts about AI or directly adjacent.
We are in an emergent, dynamic periodt. AI is revolutionary and will continue to get better. The world will change drastically because of it. This seems so obvious yet many will call it purely hype, no real value, etc. We are still in the incubation period, just like the internet in the early 2000s.
andyjohnson0
bdelmas
stormcode
Philpax
infecto
delichon
r4v3n_art
iLoveOncall
HackerNews, just like all other platforms, is heavily astroturfed and the big AI labs have bots commenting and voting, so it'll never end.
The only solution is a platform that only allows humans, with a proof of humanity before posting anything, but not too sure what that can be, and it would ultimately be unsuccessful.
But we have to see the positive, at least less posts about SQLite make it to the frontpage.
azhenley
fithisux
or Theoretical CS and algorithms.
sanderjd
telesilla
I'm glad HN isn't a curated feed, it would end up like all the the others.
dewey
I am trying to make is that maybe YC could start curating the content somehow to give those easily-drowned-out articles a visibility bump?
This kind of defeats the purpose of a link aggregator compared to a human curated newsletter or blog. Maybe something like https://hackernewsletter.com acts as a good filter for you?
There's already the "second chance pool" which is a human bump for interesting posts that didn't get the attention they should (Bad timing, other big news overshadowing, bad title etc.).
felipemaciel
d3Xt3r
As for Brax, firstly I've never even heard of them, so starting the headline with "Brax 2026 Roadmap" doesn't make it sound interesting at all. Then there's the "pocket AI phone", which was an immediate turn off for obvious reasons. Finally, the link was to a YouTube video, which is another huge turnoff. Ain't nobody got time to watch videos these days, just link to the frikin news article so I can quickly skim thru it and read what it's all about at my own pace.
austin-cheney
1. Bot submitting content. Most of it already automatically blocked. Turn on show dead in your options and then go to the new page.
2. Young, like really young, people wanting to participate but already are fully reliant on LLM with no experience writing software without LLMs to do 90% of the heavy lifting.
ChrisArchitect
Some recents:
Ask HN: Another "Hacker News" with less AI and more human-focused hacking news?
https://smackernews.com/item/48834961 HN
Show HN: Hacker News with AI stories filtered out
https://smackernews.com/item/49159018 HN
Ask HN: Add flag for AI-generated articles
https://smackernews.com/item/48886741 HN
Just a few weeks ago:
How much of HN is AI?
https://smackernews.com/item/49435728 HN
Also surfacing non-AI projects:
Ask HN: What are you building that's not AI related?
https://smackernews.com/item/47700460 HN
Ask HN: What are you working on (non-AI)?
hannofcart
Keeping abreast of fast moving AI developments with informed opinions/comments for various new models/agents etc. is primarily what I'm here for.
smt88
A couple of years ago, I felt the same way you did. And then I started properly/seriously using Claude Code. When Opus 4.5 came out, it was sincerely life-changing. I can prototype working projects in possibly 1/30th the time, and I can do them simultaneously.
This post has made me realize that the flood of AI news isn’t annoying or boring to me anymore because I think my profession is the only one that’s actually being replaced by it, for better or worse. For coders, there’s nothing even close to the level of importance as AI (which doesn’t mean it’s interesting).
Honestly I’d like to see more news about AI, but actually about the way it’s devastated the labor side of our industry and will kill the middle classes of countries like India.
Without question, nothing short of the web has been more impactful to our industry specifically than AI has been and will be.
mg
In that regard AI fits the bill well. Because many of the AI related posts are about tools one can immediately tinker with.
While a new type of laptop cooling might become interesting once the laptops come out, the news is not as interesting to me as a new LLM or agent that I can experiment with right away.
bel8
GitHub or AWS down? New LLM model? Some Apple event? Some famous tech person passed away? Some language achieved 1.0?
I think removing what's currently hot opens a bad precedent.
I suggest using personal filters (or even AI) to curate what you see in HN and the internet itself.
Martin_Silenus
dgacmu
smalltorch
1vuio0pswjnm7
HN due to its design is easy to read, interact with and modify according to personal preference. How many other sites on the www are like that
A few projects that demonstrate this are mentioned in this thread
These are projects hosted by third parties
One of them uses "AI"
Another asks users to enable Javascript
Another only applies to the /front page
There is also DIY
For example
Transform HN HTML into SQL to create SQL database. This makes it faster and easier to search for interesting information and present it in whatever format the user prefers, all from the command line, no browser needed
Modify the web pages before they reach the browser/client using a local forward proxy. This makes it easy to filter out comments that discuss "AI" and make other cosmetic and substantive changes, for example, using Lua (no "AI" needed)
Use custom command line programs to make submissions and/or replies, instead of using a web browser
These are all DIY projects of mine, written in C (Flex as code generator), Lua and Almquist shell script (no Bash). I use older, underpowered, low spec computers, no "AI"
The discussions of AI hype in HN threads seem to follow a pattern. It goes something like
HN comment: "I dislike AI hype"
HN reply: "I think AI is useful. It saved me time." (sometimes including a personal anecdote)
But "I find AI useful. I like it because [reason(s)] I used it for [project(s)]" does not address the _hype_ issue
It could address a _"usefulness"_ issue but that's not the issue being raised
BoppreH
- Global news, AI, Software, Hardware, Explainer, Tech Opinion, Personal project, Misc.
There could even be fake tags like Politics that trigger a message about appropriate topics.
It does increase moderation burden for mislabelling, and introduces another nitpicking point for comments to latch on, so it's not all upsides.
I'd be ok leaving filtering and other UI concerns to extensions.
dooglius
Lenovo showed a model that incorporates solid-state air cooling. That technology has been around for a while but it looks like it matured and is production-ready. This allows for super-light and slim designs, which, in turn, should allow for bigger batteries installed and I think it's some sort of breakthrough
See now this sounds like something I'd click on. (The linked article doesn't really discuss any of the technology or engineering though)
coldpie
Ancapistani
A tagging feature would be nice, but HN is historically very reluctant to introduce new features. I argue that’s a good thing, given its age and the fact that it remains the gold standard for tech community news.
Adding tagging strikes me as a tall order, almost like asking Craigslist to make a major UI change - feature additions threaten the spirit of a beloved platform.
herf
DennisP
xutopia
The people promising AGI just 6 months ago are now more and more quiet about the possibility and rightfully so. LLMs alone are most likely not the path to AGI.
dvfjsdhgfv
efficax
FrustratedMonky
But with Hugging Face hack, and Navier–Stokes. You're going to be flooded with news for at least a few more weeks.
pluc
https://studyfinds.com/telling-kids-theyre-smart-nearly-doub...
ryankrage77
I find, depending on the time of day, 30-50% of submissions are about AI. Also, Users who submit AI-related content tend to also submit non-AI-related content - those I tag for non-AI-related content almost never submit AI-related content.
ffsm8
Since Corona this platform has become basically reddid as it was 10-15 yrs ago.
Meanwhile the legitimately, broadly-hacker stuff gets left out for the most part
Those were pretty much always niche content here. This was- at least until Corona, a forum where you got usually pretty highly intelligent and critical input on various topics, strongly centered around products as a direct consequence of this being the (I think) most successful VC forum.
Pretty much every comment section had me think about something that I hadn't fully understood before. Nowadays? It's extremely rare to see anything remotely insightful. It's mostly just reactionary/knee jerk response, from people that clearly never actually thought about what they're actually talking about/just parroting political points.
I do miss the older content, and I've found myself getting more and more toxic as a consequence of seeing ever less insightful if not downright stupid comments here. Which - if I'm honest - objectively contributes to the problem and I should stop henceforth.
bschwindHN
bdcravens
ilaksh
2. Even though I find most of the AI posts interesting, I agree that tags and the ability to filter by tags would be really great. But it's probably a ton of work and additional system load.
I don't have a
skeledrew
swozey
Are lawyers, doctors, and people in non-tech fields getting the same thing? Is Doctor linkedin all about how AI is going to improve surgery while half your connections posts are about being unemployed?
sammy0910
https://sprinklz.io/public/pdwt4dve5uai
this is what I use to keep the garbage out
irusik
EGreg
The AI is only going to increase on all forums from here. There's no stopping it, because on most forums people will start preferring AI in many areas
lightedman
If you want actual technical discussion of other subjects, maybe slashdot is still around.
VortexLain
nunez
Semaphor
sureglymop
AyanamiKaine
While I also somewhat dislike it. I don’t think limiting them resolves the issue.
deadbabe
Someday you will look back and see this as the good old days.
mixmastamyk
Peaches4Rent
Kiro
sjs382
Keep both. AI and banning AI are both high-interest topics.
keeda
apexalpha
Previously this site was swamped with Blockchain news...
utopiah
Most companies, in software or not, are imposing minimum (after backtracking to suggest to maximized, until their started to pay bills) AI usage. A lot of people in HN also have stocks a lot of popular stocks is linked to AI success, whatever that might mean. A lot of AI entrepreneurs also are directly to sell AI, as it's simply where most of the VC money is currently going.
So... when it's this intertwined I think it will be difficult. If you know of other places I'd be curious.
mgrunwald_
amelius
Instead, AI deserves its own field, outside (and, in my taste, far away from) CS.
Dlemlo
Like a lenovo laptop with a technology which is available for a bit and another product which you can pre-order?
hevisko
At least then we'll be able to go back to decent prices etc.
educar
miyuru
I have been lurking in lobste even though i dont have account, which currently has this post which is right up my ally.
https://lobste.rs/s/twkkac/fastly_speedtest_test
same thing on HN: https://smackernews.com/item/49650630 HN
wwalexander
hax0ron3
AI is fundamentally transformative to the software development industry and threatens to put large numbers of software developers out of a job. Fable regularly does things in 20 minutes that would have taken me 2 weeks before. AI is probably the biggest revolution in software development since the development of operating systems and high-level languages. It's also potentially a fundamental turning point in the entirety of human history.
So it's no wonder that AI gets a lot of attention.
itherseed
mschuster91
Obvious slop comments thankfully already get flagged or downvoted in the hell they belong, but the submissions, oh dear god I do not wish to engage with shit written by AI any more. It's questionable enough if you let LLMs do your coding work for you, but if you can't even be arsed to write a proper README.md on your own, why the fuck should I be forced to waste my time reading it?
JamesSwift
hypfer
There's a lot of focus on in. People are trying it out in their workflows and learning new things.
So, potentially, this could just be organic.
Of course, in reality, it is not. There's a ton of "thought leader" LinkedIn slop, just advertising their own personal brand with at best mid takes. But grifters come with every paradigm shift. Unfortunately.
segmondy
andrewstuart
It’s relevant and current technology.
nticompass
AirPath
teiferer
I like adjacent articles though. Today https://smackernews.com/item/49656496 HN was a delight. It would be sad if such articles were filtered out or automatically downvoted or similar.
tigershark
browningstreet
Tagging may not help though. Even the latest Apple product announcement threads were just.. bad. Everyone wants to be grumpy and dismissive.
If I had to keep one and lose one, I’d keep X and lose HN. And while I hate Elon, HN is losing on vibes, utility, information, network, links, and tips.
WithinReason
iamgopal
VCFundedGenYer
Yesterday there were multitudes of blatant AI slop and AI-slop-fueled misinformation/contrarianism all over the front page. It's not getting caught and flagged fast enough.
proactivesvcs
postalcoder
noIdeaTheSecond
DavideNL
There's also an extension and rss feeds.
Cerium
toofy
if i’m not mistaken they might with political subjects, if so, there’s already precedent and so the tech pieces are in place.
i would be against entirely removing it, but limiting it to like 10-20% of the front page would honestly be kind of nice.
it feels like it’s been an ai sausage fest for months and months.
ltbarcly3
bluecheese452
mococa
gste
Please stop discussing one of the most pivotal moments in history
bananaflag
chilipepperhott
musha68k
Fringe topics will stay fringe until they're hip (again?); currently non fringe from my intermittent read:
- anything "AI"
- retro computing (honest interest x mourning/cope in the non-deterministic agentic takeoff)
- random topics that hit the zeitgeist
Check out lobste.rs as well as SIG across forums, IRC, fediverse, discord, etc, etc – and or create your own like in the olden days :)
FWIW I prefer to come here and post, read up and comment on "AI" over having to wade through proxied shitter content (it truly stinks over there).
poppafuze
tumdum_
int32_64
probably_wrong
bbor
ilamont
Top stories (critical and otherwise) were upvoted hundreds of times 4-5 years ago and had hundreds of comments. Sort by the past year, and no story has more than 9 points. NFTS have effectively disappeared from HN's front page.
AI is a different beast ... the tech and concepts have true value. But we may see the term "AI" start to fade as new terminology and companies and concepts rise to the fore ... the Sons/Daughters of AI.