Yes, it's good, and I'll keep using it for the foreseeable future, but it's not an unassailable lead.

My subscription is up for renewal in December and I think I actually have a decision to make. For now I'm very happy with the Kagi MCP for my research agent. But I'm definitely having a moment of "how reliant should I really be on this company?"

As other said: the target audience of the Linux version was never clear.

We dont need ad blockers. We need advertiserproof/trackingproof browsers. Like we have waterproof shoes and coats and hats. We could also use some nicer browsers in terms of features.

But what folks who really care about these details should do is simply de-apple, and de-google (and obviously de-windows!). That will get you much further than using a particular browser, but a good browser helps.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see some agentic features in their browser at some point. Their assistant tool is already quite good - it has replaced search for me in a number of scenarios.

We also chose to build it the hard way by not forking Chromium.

Bad call, because it's genuinely too hard for someone the size of Kagi, as they've discovered.

There's room for a Chromium fork that has a better reputation than Brave. (I use Brave, and it's great, but I realise many people don't want to use it.)

Thanks for the honest attempt! Hope someone takes the torch and carries it forward.

Dropping the ports doesn't necessarily make the Mac version better. It makes the entire browser unsupportable by developers who want to make their sites/programs/extensions work in Orion but can't run it.

So my support list now is...

- Supported: Firefox, Chrome, Edge, Floorp, Chromium, Brave, Vivaldi, Librewolf, Waterfox, Ungoogled Chromium, Thorium, Mullvad, Tor, DuckDuckGo, Yandex, ... - Impractical to support: Orion - Impossible to support: Zen Browser

I try to see if they got Orion to behave again, but find a bit difficult to trust it as the main browser.

I know they don't want more users at this point, but half the things I find out about are through their discontinuation press releases.

If you were Google and you wanted to spread your search engine to the world, it would be fine but such a small company. And the market share would still have been abysmal on the platforms.

Great thing that they release it before abandoning it, truely a great move !

And hopefully they keep making it better on macOS and iOS.

I was very excited about the possibility of having some rendering engine competition on Windows.