People should realize by now that they aren't giving out thousands of dollars worth of compute in a $20 subscription out of the goodness of their hearts. The base level plans aren't meant for any kind of serious work beyond the equivalent of Google searches. At best treat it like a trial.

Session limits are obnoxious and make Codex much less useful for me. I tend to code in spurts when I find some time and the $20 weekly limit was reasonable for my side projects.

I'm now hitting the session limits which means I can either purchase another plan, upgrade, or move off of Codex.

Once they capature enough marketshare prices and restrictions are both going to skyrocket. The difference between the subscription usage and API pricing are stark.

In hindsight, this makes more sense with the release of Astra. The $100/mo is now a more compelling upsell.

5h limits are awful. It means it is literally unable to complete a large task.

A better approach if they want to balance the load is having higher usage or lower usage consumption at different times of day.

This is very fair. Compared to Claude the Codex limits are much better and smarter model.

I dislike this approach. In my opinion it is much useful a 1x/2x billing based on hour like Deepseek does. Being unable to use it at the hours I need it makes me want to remove the service, not upgrading it.

Clearly, the prices and limitations will increase with time if they don't find an efficient way to perform training and inference of LLMs. It would be great to see those issues being seriously addressed and, eventually, being fixed for good. THAT would definitely make an important and practical difference. Not only economically but also scientifically.

OpenAI must be under a lot of pressure to make the books balanced. A bleak sign for Anthropic's IPO and the stock market.

My goodness, the complaining... Just get all your devs a $200 ChatGPT Pro (20x) plan. Yes, you lose the "team" component, but you gain so much more. And what's $200 against the salary of a good developer? It's absolutely inconsequential, even in far cheaper non-US salary regimes.

This is one of the reasons I’ve built a resident daemon on top a local CC/codex. 5h sessions is a [lazy] way to shift the scaling responsibility onto a user, so they are staying with us for a while

Previous discussion (from 13 days ago): https://smackernews.com/item/49432879 HN

How is 5 hrs being measured and over what time period?

What also sucks is your weekly reset does not also reset your 5 hourly. A bit like a slap in the face..

Wait, what? Hasn't this been the case for more than a week? https://smackernews.com/item/49432879 HN

I think it's reasonable for the Plus plans to have this. If you're doing any serious work you should be on the Pro plan. If you're a casual user, 5 hours is more than plenty.

At least we all got a reset out of it! I was holding off, refreshing & smashing "beg" on https://codex-resets.com

I appreciate that he gave the heads-up. I deliberately burned through my quota yesterday, low key expecting a reset, but ready if I needed to use a other banked reset.

Thanks for reading. We will do a global reset of the usage for all paid subscriptions so that you can keep enjoying Astra after burning through all of it doing fun 3D modeling in blender. The work week is about to start.

Lands around 6pm PST today.

https://m.x.com/thsottiaux/status/2097043464538264003

Haven’t these been back for weeks now?

Codex pharming on X should take a dip…

This allows users to pace their subscription usage to last the whole week.

I've had few weekends where I spend the full week credits over night then have nothing to do for a week

Controversial take but this works better for me than just the weekly limit. I have about 1-2 hours of sustained focus per 5 hour period so if I run out of tokens then I can take a break and start again in a few hours. Or just use the top ups that I’ve paid for in case I want to push through.

Having just the weekly limit meant I could blow through too much within the first couple of days. Fortunately, resets were raining down during that time.

(I know I could just vibe code a tracker that splits up my usage into arbitrary periods and lets me know when to take a break. Maybe if they remove the 5-hour limit again.)